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Locally made trams a retooling opportunity for former car makers?

From the IWW website :

European Tram Makers to Gain From U.S. Streetcar Push
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/12/business/worldbusiness/12trams.html?_r...

November 12, 2008
European Tram Makers to Gain From U.S. Streetcar Push

By JOHN TAGLIABUE
PARIS — America may have invented the streetcar, but Europe perfected it.

As gas prices soared and dozens of North American communities sought to reintroduce electric streetcars as an alternative to diesel buses, Europe’s tram builders were some of the biggest beneficiaries.

Now, as the administration of President-elect Barack Obama contemplates an infrastructure expansion to keep Americans working through a severe slowdown, trams may be one of the building blocks of economic revival and energy efficiency.

“Trams were invented by the Americans,” said Jean-Noël Debroise, vice president for product planning at Alstom, the French streetcar builder that is selling its sleek Citadis tram to cities like Houston and Toronto. “It’s a big market,” he said.

European companies like Alstom, Siemens of Germany, AnsaldoBreda of Italy, CAF of Spain and Skoda of the Czech Republic will be at the head of the line. They, along with non-European companies like Bombardier of Canada and Kinki Sharyo of Japan, are among the leading suppliers of streetcars, which are also known as light rail vehicles.

“If we get a program funded at the federal level, a lot of cities will be expressing interest,” said Jeffrey F. Boothe, a Washington lawyer specializing in public transport. “At the end of the day, only lack of federal money was stopping them.”

There are still plenty of obstacles to overcome, especially as state and local governments struggle to sell bonds during the credit market slowdown.

But that has not stopped the Europeans from watching one of the few fast-growing markets in the world: the United States. In the second quarter of 2008, use of public transport rose by 5.2 percent, while light rail use jumped 12.3 percent, according to the American Public Transportation Association.

As of last year, almost 1,800 miles of tramways were operating or planned in American cities.

In May, Siemens, the market leader, landed a $277 million contract to supply streetcars to the Utah Transit Authority. The vehicles will be ready for service by 2012 and will be built at a Siemens factory in Sacramento.

This year, Siemens signed a $184 million order for a new light rail line in Denver.

“The Denver development was not atypical,” said Oliver O. Hauck, president and chief executive of Siemens Transportation Systems. “We began with an initial, small order” that eventually mushroomed into a substantial commitment. Siemens first delivered eight streetcars to Denver in 1993; the last order was for 55 cars, and Mr. Hauck expects more.

But the recent financial turmoil threatens the market. Cities and other local governments have been effectively shut out of the bond market. At last month’s annual gathering of the American Public Transportation Association, discussions ran hot and cold.

“At one level, the gathering had the highest attendance ever,” said Mr. Boothe, who took part. “At another level, as you talked to friends, everybody was looking at stock values.”

American contracts have served as a crucial support for Europe’s tram builders, offsetting a slump in domestic markets. They are largely shut out of markets in Eastern Europe and Asia, which are controlled by local competitors. And Western European countries are close to saturation.

A recent survey for the Association of the European Rail Industry by the Roland Berger consulting group forecast annual growth of about 1 percent for European light rail over the next decade, against more than 10 percent in North America.

Most European cities, even those with extensive subway systems, also rely on trams. For American cities, trams are increasingly seen as an alternative to far more expensive underground systems.

Siemens started the North American tram rolling in 1975, when it signed deals to deliver modern streetcars to Calgary and Edmonton in Alberta. Five years later, it delivered its first tram cars to the United States, to San Diego.

“We supplied an existing European product, an imported vehicle,” Mr. Hauck said, “though from then on, we increased local content.”

Obstacles abounded for the European manufacturers. For one thing, the Buy American Act required that 60 percent of a tram car, by value, come from the United States. Siemens, to meet the requirements, opened an assembly line in Sacramento.

“We are now at 70 percent local content, with a potential for 90 percent,” said Robin Stimson, a Siemens vice president.

Siemens has trams operating in Charlotte, N.C.; Houston; Norfolk, Va.; and many other cities.

Other European players have made the market increasingly competitive. The Czech Skoda group (no relation to Volkswagen’s Skoda subsidiary) has delivered trams to Portland, Ore., and Tacoma, Wash., and is now bidding for a contract in Toronto.

AnsaldoBreda of Italy, an affiliate of the Finmeccanica group, has delivered streetcars to Cleveland; as well as San Francisco and Los Angeles.

Construcciones y Auxiliar de Ferrocarriles, or CAF of Spain, has supplied transit systems in Pittsburgh and Sacramento.

Apart from the market for trams, Alstom, a large French conglomerate best known for making the high-speed TGV and Eurostar trains, has sold subway cars to several American cities, including San Francisco, Chicago and Washington.

Though the Federal Transit Administration manages a $1.6 billion program for light rail, little of it, subject to complex distribution conditions, has been distributed to streetcar construction under the Bush administration. Financing has come mainly from local communities.

Federal spending on light rail systems totaled $473.4 million last year, after $935.7 million in 2006, according to the transit administration. “Cities opt to build locally, and eschew federal money,” Mr. Boothe said.

That is likely to change under the incoming Obama administration. But other obstacles remain.

Trams in America travel at higher speeds than their counterparts in Europe, because they usually operate over longer distances, connecting city centers with suburbs, rather than circulating in downtown areas.

To reach the 60 percent local content level, some manufacturers, like Siemens, have opened factories in the United States; others have hitched up with local partners. Skoda, for example, assembled trams for Portland and Tacoma, in conjunction with the Oregon Iron Works, near Portland.

Competition is fierce. Bombardier of Canada knows the American market well. Kinki Sharyo of Japan, an affiliate of the Kintetsu Corporation, has supplied trams to the Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority, south of San Francisco; to Hudson-Bergen Light Rail in New Jersey; and to the Sound Transit Central Link in Seattle, which will begin carrying passengers next year.

Cities that want copies of old-fashioned trolley cars, like Charlotte, Little Rock and Tampa, have acquired them from the Gomaco Trolley Company, a unit of the Gomaco Corporation, an Iowa-based maker of construction equipment.

But the Europeans say their order books are growing.
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Australia next in line for local partnership?

Good feature T. And Australia will be next (Melbourne, Adelaide, Canberra,
Gold Coast - but not Sydney for the present due to neanderthal mindsets).

But to think we had our own very sophisticated tram design and construction
industry only to lose it to corporate greed and political stupidity.

TP


Oh the irony...

Indeed - Comeng had a good design for a low floor version of the B2 Melbourne car that was killed off by Kennett.

And years ago in Sydney the postwar R1 cars were the same as the prewar cars as the tramway design office was "rationalised" before WW2.

And the final irony is the last trams built in Australia were the Sydney Variotrams, at the former Comeng plant at Dandenong.

Makes you choke, doesn't it ??

T.


Which Aussie plant could manufacture light rail cars?

T., which plant in Australia would now be the best to manufacture trams and/or light rail cars in license? How many jobs could be created? Would it be possible to turn one of the car manufacturers into building rail cars?

Today's attendance at "walk against warming" was a bit thin. We need 10,000s in the roads to change things.

MM


Opportunities and opportunity costs

M., you're probably asking the other T. but I'll throw in my tuppence anyway!

The one dedicated tram manufacturing plant in Australia is, as Tony said, the former ComEng factory at Dandenong, But this is owned by Bombardier which is only one of the manufacturers mentioned in that article T. posted and therefore would create a bit of a monopoly situation. However, any rail rolling stock manufacturer could adapt to producing trams. Indeed I believe the last of the ComEng order for Hong Kong (an example of which is illustrated in my TA
article) was completed, I think, by EDI in Queensland due to ComEng having closed down. And manufacturing plants are very adaptable things - yes a car plant could produce trams if it was fitted out for such.

You will have noted in that article that the US has local content/labour requirements that resulted in the relevant European manufacturers teaming up with a US company (e.g. Skoda/Oregon Iron Works) or opening a local factory if the order/s is big enough (and that means very big). The trick will be for our feds to use some backbone and insist on local assembly or input. Local
involvement is also good because local skill/knowledge is brought to bear on the product, thus reducing the possibility of shortcomings or failures resulting from a vehicle designed for a European operating environment being put to the test in an Australian environment, aircon systems being a particularly good example!

It is not a level playing field with manufacture/design. Some of the western European products are designed for a top class, well-maintained operating environment. Czech trams on the other hand are designed with the less than perfect environments (e.g. rough trackwork) common in Eastern Europe and elsewhere in mind so they tend to be a bit tougher (relevant to Melbourne in
some ways, or to any system as it ages and is not optimally maintained).

So a lot to consider but, yes, local involvement should be insisted on. Wouldn't produce huge numbers of jobs but a healthy number. Just as significant in another way, though, is the input of local design and engineering expertise. This is very strong in Australia and, as I have mentioned before, abundantly available in the present car manufacturing industry. If this goes pear shaped then that expertise will be looking for a new niche.

TP


Any plant will do it seems...

These days the trend seems to be rather ad hoc, for example EDI occupied the former State Rail Cardiff workshops to build the Millenium trains, United Goninans has a locomotive plant in Newcastle, Walkers in Maryborough builds EMUs in Queensland at afactory they've had for decades and the Bombardier (former Comeng) Dandenong plant is still able to build rolling stock.

There is also an EDI works at Kelso near Bathurst that replaced the Clyde Engineering works at Clyde - that is now a postal distribution depot. I suppose if a company gets a big contract to build rolling stock they will find a site to do it, whether an existing factory or a greenfield location. Apparently the new Allied Mills flour mill site at Maldon was considered for building roling stock by EDI if they'd got the tender for the new Sydney trains - Goninans got that - but the mill replacing the Mungo Scott's mill at Summer Hill went there instead.

T.